Friday, August 6, 2010

Why in 1988 did a Honda crx Hf model car get 56 mpg today most hybrids don,t get that.who,s controlling this?

Most cars today get between 20something to 40 something mpg.Why are we going backwards? You would think they would get better than that over time.Why don,t we have and internal combustion engine car getting over 50 mpg Now!!! honda had it in 88 look at the 2008 line up non of them has a non hybrid getting those kind of miles! Whats going on people?Why in 1988 did a Honda crx Hf model car get 56 mpg today most hybrids don,t get that.who,s controlling this?
It didn't. It got 41-50 MPG.





I鈥檓 guessing maybe safety regulations making the car heavier?Why in 1988 did a Honda crx Hf model car get 56 mpg today most hybrids don,t get that.who,s controlling this?
With newer safety regulations, cars have had to be made bigger and heavier, which decreases mileage.
your on to something
This is true... and if you really want to get mad look up air car on youtube.. no kidding air cars ...no need for a combustible engine... also look up cars that run on water.... these can be brought to the table right now but they keep saying next year .... Readers Digest is the only one that has mentioned the air car otherwise no mention of it anywhere.It is scary!!!!
One reason is that the car manufacturers and the big oil companies wouldn't make as much money if hybrids became popular (which is 1 theory why most hybrids are really ugly).


Also, if you took an 88 CRX HF (which I believe is the lightest weight CRX they had and one of the lightest cars ever) and put it through the modern crash testings of today, then the car would never make it to the market.


All cars have gained weight over the years to make them safer.
It has to do with weight. The 1988 Honda CRX HF model was a stripped down CRX. The CRX was already light so to remove weight they just took out sound insulation, metal from cross bracing and kept the options to a minimum. They cannot do that today because of safety standards. The original was a death trap and Honda cannot build a car that will not pass U.S. safety standards. A current Honda Civic Hybrid weighs twice what a CRX HF weighs. Have a nice day!
One reason; weight (aka mass) The '88 CRX HF was less than 2000lbs, today's Civic is around 3000lbs.





Today's customers and regulations require all sorts of crap that add a bunch of weight to the vehicle. In terms of ton-miles per gallon, today's Civic is more efficient than the CRX HF.





If you want really great mileage, take that '88 CRX and install a 1.0 liter engine of design comparable to the 2.0 liter in today's Civic. It would have more power than the original CRX engine and get better mileage.
That crx had a 1.5 litre engine, no weight and a economy transmission that could do 200mph in high gear if the power was there. It was also fuel injected, something we use today to acheive high fuel economy. Honda has always been very good at building fuel efficent cars. Thats why they sell so well now. The insight gets 80mpg in some conditions.





But what you dont think about is how much bigger the prius is than the old crx. Todays civic is larger than the old accord. More mass needs more power to move it around. Nearly all cars today come with abs, traction control, front and side airbags, bells and whistles, tire pressure monitoring systems, ecu's, tcu's, dome light control modules... the list goes on. All that stuff adds mass to the car and takes away from fuel economy. The crx wasnt safe or advanced but it did get good mileage and was a blast to drive. Apples and oranges here.

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